Tab Mix Plus

When I finish for the day I usually just logout, (linux, X windows) without specifically closing my firefox windows. But with Tab Mix Plus next day I get a popup asking to restore the crashed session. I don't want to see it, but just start with my normal start session.

Previous to using Tab Mix Plus, my logout script automatically removed the file
.mozilla/firefox/*/sessionstore.js
which prevented the stupid unwanted 'crash session' re-appearing.

How can I do the same in Tab Mix Plus?

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Anthony Thyssen

if you don't need any session restore
you can remove the file session.rdf from you profile

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No I want my startup session.
I just never want the 'crashed session'.

I have
When Browser starts: restore
When Browser exits: save session
Startup session: Default

I need the Default Session, as it has my 'tab' setups. Without it I get no pre-initialised tabs.

I just do not want it to start, or offer to start any other session! If I want a different session I'll select it!

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Anthony Thyssen

if i understand you correctly, you want Firefox to start with the tabs from your last session, after a crash or after normal start.

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I think antofthy doesn't want to see the confirmation. Since s/he doesn't exit Fx normally but really just crashes it, the confirmation 'Would you like to restore the crashed session?' (or something like that?) shows on the next start.
Uncheck - Enable crash recovery or/and Ask before restoring?

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but without crash recovery all tabs from last session are lost
maybe new option is what we need - "Always restore windows and tabs after crash"

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Do you mean restore without asking? Isn't there an option to check/uncheck already?
But what happens if Enable crash recovery option is unchecked? Does Fx start with a blank tab?

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I think the OP means that from the user perspective this kind of "force quit" is not really a crash, so they do not want Tab Mix Plus to offer to restore this "crashed" session, but simply to start with their user-set startup session normally.

I clicked on this forum topic, actually, because I would like something similar - if I have multiple tabs open when I exit Firefox normally (by clicking the X to close the window; talking about WinXP here), Tab Mix still seems to regard this as a "crash" and asks if I want to restore that "crashed session" the next time I run the browser, even though I have it set to "Don't restore" (and then "show my home page"). I assume this is because I have crash recovery turned on and I DO want that feature - for actual crashes! So I don't want to turn off crash recovery. But it would be good if it were smarter about detecting what is actually a crash.

edit: Well. I tried to reproduce this to test whether File > Exit did anything different than "X", and now I can't get it to do this at all. It's showing my home page normally. So, maybe disregard this (perhaps exactly what I'm referring to here has already been fixed; but it definitely was doing it in the not too distant past)!

This is not really TMP but how Fx operates - if you close the browser w/out exiting it, it assumes a crash. If you don't want the confirmation to come up, UNcheck 'Ask to restore'.
There's no way for any ext., as far as i know, to distinguish if it's a 'real' crash or a 'crash by will'. A crash is a crash and when you close the browser without properly exiting, you actually asking for trouble 'cause one day it will crash .. 'for real' and break your profile. There's a custom button and toolbar buttons available, will save you a click:
ask in the Buttons forum of CB forum here and i will post mine or link to one (Custom Buttons ext. required)
install from codefisher here (this buttons install as small exts.)

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No that is not what I want.

The user "lihatt" sumerised it exactly. I asked for a 'startup session' and that is what I want to see!


I do not have 'Ask Before Restoring' checked. I set "When Broswer Starts: Restore"
Also unchecking "Enable Crash Recovery" will still 'popup' but with my 'startup session' instead of the 'crash session'. It is an even more useless popup. Besides, I wnat crash recovery. From the menu! Just no popup!


More info... Firefox does crashed when I log out, but only because of the way firefox handles tabs.

What I logout I send all clients a 'close window' signal, (using a app called 'xclosedown'. Firefox in that case pops up a winodw about close with multi-tabs. The next stand 5 seconds later, 'xclosedown' sees the application did not close down cleanly, so it assumes it is a 'bad app, that does not understand 'close window', and sends a 'destory window'. This crashes firefox (as if the X server died, which follows soo afterward anyway). So typically on logout a firefox with multiple tabs is 'crashed'.

This is 'logout crash' is probably VERY COMMON! Thanks to the firefox multi-tab close popup, and the common methods of practice of logout under X windows, being to just kill the X server. My own exit is 'more friendly' using "xclosedown" (a very old application), but it is not wide spread.


Next time I login I get a crash recovery popup from tab mix plus. When I say 'don't restore' as in don't restore the crash -- IT doesn't

BUT it also does NOT restore my NORMAL STARTUP SESSION! (home pages in locked tabs). That I would have assumed should be restored If I rejected the offered crash session. All I get is my untabed home pages! -- That is also not good. (perhaps a third button on the crash recovery popup? -- "Start normally")

Even starting a new firefox window, when one is already running does not start my normal startup session. Again just my normal untabbed home pages!


I like the crash session kept, and I can select it form the menus, if I want to continue (usually not). But I don't want to see any 'crashed popup', period. Just my carefully prepared 'Startup Session', with its collection of locked and frozed tabs.

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Anthony Thyssen

OK
now i understand you
How about new option "Don't show notification about crash on start up"

by the way to prevent Firefox pops about closing window with multi-tabs look at this help page -http://tmp.garyr.net/help/#Events_-_Tab_Closing.
You can disable Warn me when closing window with multiple tabs and Warn me when closing window with protected tabs

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Thanks. Though The first is useful. I find I often hit close window instead of close tab. As such that popup I like.


Do you have a ETA, or has it just been placed on a 'ToDo' list?

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