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Hi,

I am on TMP 0.4.0.2 on FF 12.0 on Unbuntu 8.04 Linux.

The current rename feature is so buried (IMHO) that I was initially unable to find it. When it was pointed out to me (thank you), I discovered that it did not do what I was hoping that it would. I had previously been using TabRenamizer, however, TR is no longer being maintained and does not work properly on my installation of FF 12.0 (various flaky tab labeling/naming, such as "New Tab", "Connecting", missing favicon.ico icons; but sometimes works and sometimes not).

The tab renaming features I hope for are:

1) Place in Preferences to list domains/addresses which are to be renamed in the tab upon/during opening a tab/window -- and their corresponding new names (with some preloaded selectable defaults for renames).

2) Preferences/settings for tab renaming should be in the Preferences.

3) The current Rename Tab that is possible in the right click on a tab (if enabled) could still exist (probably with a different or more specific name) for one-off, one-session, one-tab renaming.

4) Renaming should be sticky in terms of surviving restarts of FF.

5) Renaming should apply to any tab/window that opens containing one of the listed domains, even if another such tab/window is already opened. This level of tab renaming is FF-program-wide, not just for one particular tab.

6) Listing domains/addresses (this may go beyond what TabRenamizer did) should be hierarchical as follows:

foo.com --> renames any page on foo.com
subdomain.foo.com --> renames only subdomain addresses, but all of them
foo.com/subdir --> renames only pages on foo.com of that subdir
foo.com/subdir/subsubdir --> renames only pages on foo.com of that subsubdir
foo.com/mypage.html -- renames only that page
.... and there are probably quite a few other cases.

Perhaps the syntax should be more like:

foo.com/* or just foo.com/
subdomain.foo.com/* or just subdomain.foo.com/
foo.com/subdir/* or just foo.com/subdir/
etc.

Regarding how TabRenamizer functioned, it can still be downloaded here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tabrenamizer/

Thanks. I hope something can be done (I don't have any of the necessary skills) as I really miss this capability.

Jay

2 & 3 & 4
-1! I personally don't want to go to prefs every time i want to rename a tab. Rclick menu is working fine for me and has been for years. My renamed titles stick between restarts. As i said in your other thread - try the latest dev.build:



You should see this new popup on Rclick:




If you still experience problems, there might be a conflict with other exts. Try a clean profile.

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I have installed the latest version (0.4.0.3pre.120518a).

There is no change in behavior for me (FF 12.0 on Ubuntu 8.04 Linux). For me, with the new version, the renaming is not also applied to another tab of the same address/domain that I open. And it does not survive a FF restart.

The "new popup on Rclick" you refer to looks just like the old one. I am not sure what you think should look different.

Right now I don't have time (I am supposed to be "producing") to "try a clean profile" (which would include figuring out exactly what that means). Maybe this weekend.

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However, I get the impression you did not fully read or perhaps comprehend my full original post.

My #3 specifically addressed keeping the right click method.

Assuming that the problem I am currently having with the renaming is a problem with my installation, that still does not address all the other points I mentioned (such as how to specify addresses and how the renaming will behave for the different address syntax), it also does not address the subject of being able to manage renaming. With your right click method, there is no apparent way to see a list of all addresses which will be sujbect to renaming, or to easily make modifications thereof. The right click method is fine as far as it goes (assuming it works), but the right click method does not address the broader need for a "management console" for renaming.

I don't appreciate your tone. I'm not obligated to address every/any word you type. I'm not a developer (who is also not obligated to do a thing) but a user just like you. I simply share my experience. The Rename option popup has changed lately ( 0.4.0.2pre.120330a ) and i simply wanted to make sure we're talking about the same thing because i don't know what 'the old one' is for you.
I have no opinion about your proposals. I personally don't need them 'cause as i said, the option works well for my needs now. There used to be a problem. For instance, you rename a tab that needs you to be logged in, like a forum. The tab reloads and comes back with a new address - the renamed title is lost! I had this problem for a while. With the new (.4.0.2) way, no matter address, the tab stays renamed. After all, should something change in there, i can always click Back button. So, for me, it works fine now and i don't want any changes to the Rclick menu, at all (your #3).
But your biggest problem right now is that the renamed titles aren't sticking between restarts as they should (and do for me). Please read the troubleshooting tips linked in my signature. You will find all the needed info and links there. Depending how many exts. you have, you might try a less clean approach and disable half of your exts., then the other half if needed to find which ext. conflicts.
But i'd suggest you clean about:config from that other ext. leftovers first of all. Search about:config for something like tabrenam and it should bring up all the entries by that ext. if any left there (something like extensions.tabrenam...... ). Rclick each/Reset/restart. It shouldn't matter but from my experience, sometimes it does and wouldn't hurt to clean it out it anyway.

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I am shocked by your reply. And then I discovered that you edited/amplified your reply to make it even more strong (by adding the first sentence). [Some other installations of phpbb that I have participated in the past at least make some mention if a posting has been edited.]

First of all, nothing I said even remotely suggested, or was meant to suggest, that you were obligated to do anything. I was attempting to say that it seemed to me like you had not read all of what I had written when you constructed your reply to me. And that was very relevant because I was, for example, not suggesting eliminating the right click.

You are most definitely not "but a user just like you". You are a moderator and a very active participant -- I suspect that many forum members assign your words much greater weight than the words of an "ordinary user" such as myself. If *I* were a moderator in such an environment, I would feel considerable responsibility to craft my words very carefully -- I would never know exactly who I was corresponding with and what there intent may or may not have been. I feel that you have inferred intent that I did not imply or intend to imply.

I very much appreciate your suggestions, the links, etc., and I will, as time permits, follow-up and see if I can't fix the problem on my end.

However, I don't feel that I need to submit myself to what feels to me to be nearly abusive language. I feel that you have grossly misunderstood my intent and my attempt to be constructive. Thus, it would be best for me -- and perhaps others -- to excuse myself from this forum so that I won't cause any more problem for you ... or for myself. I do not feel welcome here.

I wish you and everybody the best of luck and success. Again, I appreciate your positive suggestions, and this great FF add-on.

Please feel free to do whatever you wish but don't play innocent. You know exactly what i mean. I found it insulting towards me and answered in your manner. I don't appreciate being bullied and that's the impression i got from your posts. Maybe instead of lecturing me on forum ethics you should take a look at your own superiority assumption:



You're welcome!

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No Sir! I do not know what you mean. You have mistaken me for somebody or something else. I simply did not think you had read all of what I had written or that you had not understood what I was saying (maybe my original wording was not clearly written) when you worded your reply. That was all. You had inferred meaning that absolutely was not intended.

I have to get away from this!

As before, I am on FF 12.0 on Unbuntu 8.04 Linux. I _was_ using: TMP 0.4.0.2

But upon your suggestions am now using TMP 0.4.0.3.pre.120518a. That seems to be the latest at this moment

I have finally had time to do more testing. Disabling (but leaving installed) _all_ other Add-ons (and then restarting FF) has _not_ corrected my problems with Tab Renaming.

a) Newly opened tabs of the same domain (whether opened independently, or from the existing renamed tab; and whether identical URL or different URL in same domain) do NOT take on the renaming defined for the renamed tab.

b) Restarting FF and then going to the same domain/URL does NOT pick up on the renaming done in the previous FF session.

I have to manually rename each and every tab, in every session, that I want renamed.

*** But, I have NOT yet "tried a clean profile". That will be next (I think I have finally found the Linux instructions.)

I am happy to do further testing or supply further information if there is something else I can try.

Jay

I have now completed creating a new profile, installed the latest TMP (and that is the only installed add-on), configured TMP to show the Rename in the right-click menu, and did a rename.

There is no change in behavior.

Further created/opened tabs of the same URL or domain do NOT automatically rename themselves.

Tab renaming does not survive restarting Firefox. If I go to the same URL again, the tab does not automatically rename.

As far as I know that is the extent of what I know to test.

Jay

Rename tab only apply to the tab you rename, not to any other tabs.

you can use bookmark name as tab title
http://tmp.garyr.net/help/#Display_-_Tab

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