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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:55 pm 
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makondo wrote:
the code you posted may not work 'cause you need to override it with an '!important;', try this: tabpanels { margin-top: 5px !important; }

I missed to quote that - I had it that way.

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However, while i didn't go through the whole .jar it seems that you'll find the multirow settings in the classic.css (open .jar file and then keep clicking on chrome>tabmixplus.jar>>skin>classic>tabmixplus>classic.css). Hope it helps!

That's at least a good hint! Up to now, I only checked FireFox classic.jar and not TMPs - looking at the file you mentioned, I at least have an idea why tabs suddenly get so small as soon as it goes multi-row (height is normal as long as there's only one row - opening the second row, height shrinks - and I guess I've found the reason for that at least). I will play with those settings a bit - if I found a solution, I will post it here of course!

One piece of TMPs classic.css is:
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.tabbrowser-tabs[flowing=multibar][inline=true][classic=v3] > .tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"],
.tabbrowser-tabs[flowing=multibar][multibar][classic=v3] > .tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] {
  height: 24px;
  max-height: 24px;
  margin: 0px 0px 0px;
}

I'm not that firm with CSS: How can I reset these values in userChrome.css without providing explicit settings - if that's possible at all? Since only KDE3 is affected, I guess that's the place the fix has to go...

Besides, I had another chance to encircle the problem: It appears to happen only with KDE3 (I checked with different Linux installations of friends: with FluxBox, Gnome, FVWM and KDE4 the problem seems not to exist). Very strange stuff...


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Hm - I copied TMPs classic.css to my profiles chrome/userChrome.css and replaced all the 24px and 23px and the like in "multibar" to "2em" (that's what I tested before in that place with "tab {}" globally), but it changed nothing :( Assuming the favicons are 16x16px, tab height gets reduced to about 20px here as soon as a second row of tabs is needed, which is a bit small. With only one row, I guess it's about 30px (or 2em) and looks fine.

Another question: Looking at my screenshots at page 4 of this thread, to me it looks like the tabs are rendered with some semi-transparent image being used - or what makes up the bottom-up "T"? If I'd know where that image is to be found, maybe I could edit that to make it look less bad?


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Sorry, Izzy, the code above seems to be for fx3, i assume ('v3'?) which i won't have for a while yet, plus, of course, i'm on windows! and don't see your problems and can't test it.

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Hm - I copied TMPs classic.css to my profiles chrome/userChrome.css and replaced all the 24px and 23px and the like in "multibar" to "2em" (that's what I tested before in that place with "tab {}" globally), but it changed nothing...


You did use the '!important;' right?

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@makondo: I tried with and without the !important (cannot remember where exactly I used it). To be honest: I never got an idea when to use it and when not. Can you tell me with a few words what exactly it means?

To strip down my problem to a few words: With multiple tab rows, 1) the height gets to small - plus the active tab has a "bar" below it (making it look like an top-down "T"), where I assume it may be some image used here. So as a first step, I tried to convince TMP not to shrink the tabs height. And then, if someone could tell me where to find it, I wanted to eliminate the "bar" attached directly below the active tab (which is always wider than the tab itself).

But you are right: This problem seems to exist only on Linux, and here also only with FF3 running on KDE3 - so far I tracked it down. I'm afraid I will end up waiting for a solution until I switched to KDE4 (which is right now not yet usable for me). Too few users affected by this. Luckily, one can count it a "cosmetical problem", not a functional one. And one may argue I should not open so many tabs, so I won't be affected either :roll:


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Izzy

in the error console evaluate the command navigator.platform
what is the result

also in about:config what is the value for general.skins.selectedSkin

try to see if changing this css help (this css is from firefox classic.jar)
Code:
tab[selected="true"] {
  z-index: 1;
  margin-top: 0;
  margin-bottom: -2px;
  -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 3px;
  -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 3px;
  padding-top: 4px;
  padding-bottom: 6px;
  -moz-user-focus: normal;
}

.tab-bottom[selected="true"] {
  margin-bottom: 0;
  margin-top: -2px;
  padding-top: 6px;
  padding-bottom: 4px;
}



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:58 pm 
Hello,

I do not know where to post that "bug", but I think here it's the good place.

I'm while testing Firefox 3 and the Beta TMP before updating my Firefox 2 on my principal workstation.

It's look great, you did a good job, TMP working well like the version for Firefox 2, but I saw a little difference between the new beta version and the old one (version for Firefox2) :

=> in "TMP Options" > "Menu" tab > first tab : there is an option to refresh every X seconds, but on the older version of TMP this options was in the contextual menu (into the page, not on the tab menu), is it a bug or will this option be added soon ?

Thank you very much for your answer. And sorry for my English.

I have Firefox 3.0.1 and TMP last build just installed 5mn ago. Default theme and only TMP extension.

I need this option to be on the context menu (and not on the tab menu) because when I need this feature its when I see webcam in a popup (where there is no tab, so i cannot access this menu... :( and many time the default refresh is about 15s and I force it to be 1s, work very well on Firefox 2, waiting for a similar feature on the Firefox3's TMP before switching definitively !

THANK YOU very much for your extension guys ;)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:09 pm 
Hello again,

just to show you another little bug :

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why don't tabs just adapt them self to the available space ?

And I just have another question: is it possible to move the "tab list" button to the menubar on the top ? because here it take too much space.

Thank you very much again.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:23 pm 
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Rognogno wrote:
Hello,

I do not know where to post that "bug", but I think here it's the good place.

I'm while testing Firefox 3 and the Beta TMP before updating my Firefox 2 on my principal workstation.

It's look great, you did a good job, TMP working well like the version for Firefox 2, but I saw a little difference between the new beta version and the old one (version for Firefox2) :

=> in "TMP Options" > "Menu" tab > first tab : there is an option to refresh every X seconds, but on the older version of TMP this options was in the contextual menu (into the page, not on the tab menu), is it a bug or will this option be added soon ?

Thank you very much for your answer. And sorry for my English.

I have Firefox 3.0.1 and TMP last build just installed 5mn ago. Default theme and only TMP extension.

I need this option to be on the context menu (and not on the tab menu) because when I need this feature its when I see webcam in a popup (where there is no tab, so i cannot access this menu... :( and many time the default refresh is about 15s and I force it to be 1s, work very well on Firefox 2, waiting for a similar feature on the Firefox3's TMP before switching definitively !

THANK YOU very much for your extension guys ;)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:30 pm 
[quote="CPU"][/quote]Work!

THE FRENCH TRANSLATION IS BAD !!

in French it's written "Reload all tabs" ... :roll:

that's why i didn't find it before ^^

So, if you want to correct the translation, this : "Actualiser tous les onglets" need to be replaced with "Actualiser l'onglet toutes les..." like in the first tab :wink:

i'm happy it's working !! now i'll switch to Firefox 3 i think :P


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:30 pm 
It's OK I moved the "opened tab list" button to the top :)

but i still have this little bug :

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when you'll have time, would be nice to add a feature to auto-size tabs to use the available space. Because now it use the "minimum value" but there is more place on the line so it should use a little bit more of the minimum size but not to much more, just what it need to stay on the same line :)

Thank you again, this extension make firefox the best browser ever :!:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:58 pm 
Rognogno wrote:
It's OK I moved the "opened tab list" button to the top :)
Image

when you'll have time, would be nice to add a feature to auto-size tabs to use the available space. Because now it use the "minimum value" but there is more place on the line so it should use a little bit more of the minimum size but not to much more, just what it need to stay on the same line :)

Thank you again, this extension make firefox the best browser ever :!:


An easy, temporary hack:

If you usually keep your browser maximized, you can edit the 'Tab Width' and keep min and max the same. Then either increase or decrease the width a pixel at a time until you're satisfied with the width of tabs. You can get it to the point where it uses all the space.

I did that before switching to Tree Style Tabs. I'm hooked on Tree Style now.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:00 am 
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Izzy,

it's kinda off topic here, so shortly put, the !important; part will overwrite an existing code. If we'll take a portion of the above code (onemen's post) as an example:
Code:
.tab-bottom[selected="true"] {
  margin-bottom: 0;
  margin-top: -2px;

change it and add !important; to it:
Code:
.tab-bottom[selected="true"] {
  margin-bottom: 2px !important;
  margin-top: 2px !important; }

it will override the first, original code. The easiest way to do this kind of changes is to install the Stylish ext., search the site for existing styles and, if not found, ask in the userstyles.org forum (which appears to be down now, keep trying), guys are very helpful there. It's easier, 'cause you can test styles, enable/disable usually with a couple of clicks.
The upside down 'T' you're talking about is actually Fx invention and is not TMP related. That was one of the changes in the Fx2 default theme. I don't have it, got rid of it with a style. But you're using Fx3 - a new default theme again and i didn't look at this one yet. I'm sure, however, that the Stylish site has a style for that, search it.
See if this thread helps you (you can use .css codes in stylish, that's what stylish is for - check the link i gave above and read up there).

Take it easy, Izzy!Image

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:12 am 
guest wrote:
An easy, temporary hack:

If you usually keep your browser maximized, you can edit the 'Tab Width' and keep min and max the same. Then either increase or decrease the width a pixel at a time until you're satisfied with the width of tabs. You can get it to the point where it uses all the space.

I did that before switching to Tree Style Tabs. I'm hooked on Tree Style now.
Hi,

Thank you for your answer. I already know that I can do that (just to edit the minimum size to a value that use all the available space with maximum tab on a line...) but I do resize my Firefox windows many time in a day (I don't keep it maximized or any fix size) so I would really really want that the "minimum tab size" auto-adapt imslef depending on the line width to use all the space available without begin a new line.

I hope you understand what i'm trying to say :)


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onemen wrote:
in the error console evaluate the command navigator.platform
what is the result

Linux i686

onemen wrote:
also in about:config what is the value for general.skins.selectedSkin

classic/1.0

onemen wrote:
try to see if changing this css help (this css is from firefox classic.jar)
Code:
tab[selected="true"] {
  z-index: 1;
  margin-top: 0;
  margin-bottom: -2px;
  -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 3px;
  -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 3px;
  padding-top: 4px;
  padding-bottom: 6px;
  -moz-user-focus: normal;
}

.tab-bottom[selected="true"] {
  margin-bottom: 0;
  margin-top: -2px;
  padding-top: 6px;
  padding-bottom: 4px;
}


I can see no difference with this code added to my userChrome.css - or do I need to add "!important" to each setting?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:24 am 
I have the 0.3.7pre.080721 installed, but when I right click on the tab, the "Close tab" option (or actually "Sulje välilehti" as it is in Finnish) is disabled.


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Thanks for this amazing plugin!!!


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makondo wrote:
it's kinda off topic here, so shortly put, the !important; part will overwrite an existing code.

I see - so it is needed always if I want to overwrite some existing setting - in opposite to adding something new. IOW: If there is e.g. no height defined for element X, I don't need to specify "!important" - otherwise I need. Thanx!

@onemen: Taking this information and combining it with the code you quoted above, it in fact changes the appearance of the selected tab in the first row: Height grows back to normal - but only for that. Side-effect is that the second row disappears half, since the height of the entire bar was not adjusted.

makondo wrote:
The easiest way to do this kind of changes is to install the Stylish ext., search the site for existing styles and, if not found, ask in the userstyles.org forum (which appears to be down now, keep trying), guys are very helpful there.


Oha - thank you very, very much for that hint! No more continuous restarts to see whether the changes have the wanted effect - great! I just built my first style to resize the toolbars as an exercise. And tried the above with it. Will play more with it and hopefully get something suiting :wink:

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The upside down 'T' you're talking about is actually Fx invention and is not TMP related.

No, surely not - as I already mentioned before, even on a fresh installation with an "empty" profile (no extensions or schemes installed additionally) you will see this in Preferences->Advanced. Just in the multi-row tab bars it doesn't show up without TMP - obviously, since you have no multiple rows then :)

makondo wrote:
I don't have it, got rid of it with a style.

If you remember that style, it may give me a chance to locate it (no need to answer if it's to be found on the quoted location)

makondo wrote:
See if this thread helps you

Thank you - will do!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:11 am 
Fixed: Tabs in multi-row are centered in the row in some theme.

I am still seeing this problem using the Classic Compact theme with the latest build.


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@onemen, @makondo: I found a work-around for the tab display problem with FF3 on KDE3 - not that nice, but somehow it does the job:

Code:
tab:not([selected="true"]) {
  -moz-opacity: 0.8 !important;
}

tab[selected="true"] {
  -moz-opacity: 0.99 !important;
}


As soon as I set -moz-opacity to "1", the upside-down "T" effect is back again. This effect is disabled by any value <1 (of course, with "0" the tab disappears completely ;)). Not an ideal solution, since the tabs are missing contrast - but at least a tab from the 1st row no longer overlaps one of the 2nd anymore. So as long as there's no better solution, affected people can put above code fragment to their chrome/userChrome.css (or use it with the "stylish" extension suggested by makondo).


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:34 am 
First, let me thank onemen for the most useful add-on Firefox has ever had! Every time Mozilla releases a new build(or version) I search out an update to TMP. Without it Firefox is just another IE.

But(there's always a but), every time I try to install pre.08728 Firefox tells me that it's "not a valid install package"! What am I doing wrong?

I'm running FF3.0.1 on Vista.


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