Tab Mix Plus

Hi makondo: Excuse me for popping in but this seems the best time and place to ask. I've always been confused by the terminology here. Am I right in saying that Load on new tabs: actually means New tabs load on: ? The label as it stands doesn't make any sense to me!

I'm reading this thread because I too am having rather similar problems, but (wouldn't you know it!) they're not consistently repeatable ;-(

FWIW, my settings in FF12 look like this (I haven't touched them for ages).



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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

'Load on new tabs' means that when you open a new tab (some people open new tabs with short cuts, buttons), something is placed there, like a duplicate of the page your are on at the time, or what's new in Fx 12 - New tab page which is actually a list of previously/most visited pages. Or a blank page - that is nothing will be loaded. So it makes sense to me.
But what would you mean by 'New Tabs load on'? The only thing i can think of would be a placement, like 'on the right', 'on the left' but those settings are just below, as you can see on your shot.
English is not my native language and i might be missing something here but it makes sense to me. Unless it's not a 'proper' English.

What does not make sense to me is Current page and Duplicate page ... unless there's a difference in retaining tab history, it sounds the same to me.

So, how do you think this option should sound if it means what i explained above? We're open for suggestions as always!

Also, since this thread has such a vast title, what are your problems? Can you try to describe it? Remember - a clean profile + last dev.version is a good start.

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Thanks makondo, but I'll have to wrap a cold towel around my head and think hard about all this again before I risk a proper reply!

Meanwhile, a few comments. I've always regarded a new tab as what I get automatically when I click a bookmark, a link, a search, etc. I never 'manually' open a new tab and I don't see why I would ever want to do that? Especially an empty new tab. What would I typically do with an empty tab?

I do sometimes open a duplicate tab, usually so that I can work in it without risk of losing the original.

P.S. Your English is undetectable from a native English speaker IMO.

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Current page open new tab on the same page.
Duplicate page - duplicate all the tab history

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I use blank page when i edit styles, primarily, and since all my browser is a see-through 'glass' (dialogs, editors, etc.) i sometimes don't want any content bleeding behind the editor. I focus tabs on hover and it allows me to quickly switch tabs from blank to any other w/out having to minimize-maximize the whole window.
But originally the Blank page option was a request - some people open a blank tab and then type a url. They said it was their habit. I personally don't see why it would be needed if you can set opening new tabs from url in a new tab (Events/Tab Opening > Address bar). You would then type a url over whatever it's there, enter and it will open that url in a new tab.
I remember when TM (the original Tab Mix) was 45KB or something like that. When it reached 65KB, people were whining 'BLOAT!' There people on MoZine who hate TMP for its 'bloat' as if it were their mother-in-law. Frank Lion, for one, used to never miss a chance to say something negative and, of course, malliz - who follows Frank around - would pop up immediately to bark something. I had my share of fights with them on MoZine about TMP. I'd think, if you don't like it, don't use it and shut up!

onemen,

i think the option for the Duplicate tab should say Duplicate tab with history. This will differentiate it from the 'Current tab' option and will give a bit of explanation (and don't forget the Help page if you change it. It might need a new shot)

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Oh, Terry, how's the towel working?
Here, i'll try again. Think of it as layers in a slow motion demo: you open a new tab; it's a blank (nothing there); then something loads in ('on') it - like your Home page, for instance. Get it?
The phrase 'New Tabs load on' applies that new tab can be loaded over the current tab, tab next to current, end of tabrow - another words, it sounds like it suggests a physical placement of a new tab not its content. Unless, as i said, my english is lacking here.

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Thanks makondo, I think I'm getting it now. This (and some other TMP options and setting combinations) would benefit greatly from a video tutorial IMO. I find it quite difficult to visualise the behaviour merely from a text description. Usually I resort to extensive testing until the penny drops, but I'd get it much faster from a video.

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Terry, UK

Go ahead, i'm sure onemen will use it on the Help page if you make it. I'm pretty sure he's too busy to do that. I'm pretty sure i'm too dumb to do that. Maybe you or somebody with 'advanced' abilities can do this.

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That's a sort of Catch 22 situation. I could make the video OK. That's the only sense in which I'm 'advanced'. But first I'd need to be fully confident I understand how the settings work. And to achieve that I need to see dynamic examples of them working. Such as via a video! Full circle...

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Terry, UK