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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:59 pm 
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I would like to see another item in the tab context menu:
"Move tab to other window..." . This feature is in fact
part of another extension, "TabToWindow"
http://www.sogame.cat/ttwindow/ . But that extension is
not compatible with TMP. (It also seems not to work in the
first window opened by a Firefox instance.)

This feature would make it much easier for me to keep my various
Firefox windows organized across multiple workspaces. For example,
if I open a link in Thunderbird, or from a command line, the tab
sometimes (often?) lands in a Firefox window in the "wrong" workspace.
I then don't want to open a new Firefox window, and I can't just
drag the tab across workspaces to get it to the correct Firefox window.
A Tab (and/or Main) context menu item "Move tab to other window..."
would be just the thing.

I am using:
Tab Mix Plus 0.3.8.6
Tab To Window 1.2.9
FireFox 3.6.18
Ubuntu 10.04


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:18 pm 
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http://tmp.garyr.net/help/#Menu_-_Tab_Context_Menu

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:41 pm 
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makondo wrote:
http://tmp.garyr.net/help/#Menu_-_Tab_Context_Menu
The closest function I see here is "Move to New Window"
which is not at all the same thing.
The existing function moves the tab to a NEW window in the
SAME workspace.

What I want is to move the tab to an EXISTING window,
probably in a DIFFERENT workspace.
This involves displaying a list of existing windows for the
user to choose from.
Please see the "Tab To Window" add-on for the functionality
I am looking for.

Thanks for your quick reply,
-LenW


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:55 pm 
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You mean you open a few instances of Fx at the same time? What's 'workspace'?
The ext. you point to seem to be doing the same thing TMP does - moves a tab to a new window. You may want to try the Multi tab handler and see if it does what you want. Sorry, i don't get it, maybe onemen or someone else does.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:53 pm 
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'Workspaces' is a way of grouping related windows so that only one
group is visible at any one time. This is also know as a 'virtual desktop':
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_desktop
(When my computer was running Windows, I used VirtuaWin to give me
Workspaces: http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/ .)
(Note: you can choose to have some windows to be always visible.)

I have just one instance of Firefox, but one Fx window for each of my
workspaces, and I try to keep web-pages in the window for the
workspace related to that topic. I find it very helpful to keep
things separated in this way. (Try it - you may like it too :-) )

If I open a web-page directly in Fx, it's easy to do it in the right
workspace. But if I open it (remotely) from another app
(eg Thunderbird, Emacs, or a Terminal-window) it's not so easy to
control where the page opens. If it goes to a Fx window in the wrong
workspace it now is very awkward to move it to the correct one.
"Move to other window" would make it much easier.

If you didn't see how "Tab To Window" works, I suspect that you had
only one window open in your Fx. Or perhaps you didn't recognize the
function under the name they use "Join to Window" .
(I think "Move to other window" is a much better name.)

If you do have other Fx windows, and you click on "Join to Window",
in the tab context menu, you will get a list of the other Fx windows,
so you can choose which one you want to get this tab.

And thanks for mentioning "Multi tab handler". That looks great.
It doesn't do "Move to other window", but I would expect that it
would allow me to move multiple tabs when TMP can do that.

Thanks for your patience,
-LenW


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:02 pm 
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Any further thoughts or questions on this idea?
-Len


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:47 am 
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I am also very interested in this feature. I'm also using Linux, and links are frequently opened in a window in a different workspace. It would be great to have a context-menu entry to send a tab to a different (not new, already existing) window.

Edit: I should mention that the way this is currently accomplished is to first separate the tab from the current window ("Move to New Window", or just drag out of window), then send the new window to the appropriate workspace, then reattach the tab to the FF window in that workspace (drag the tab from the new window into the tab bar in the existing window). This new capability would accomplish all of this with a single context menu selection.


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:53 pm 
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Thanks, mmindenhall, for clarifying how convenient this proposed
function would be, compared to what is currently available.

I am still very interested in this proposal.
Thanks,
-LenW


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:14 pm 
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Again, Multi Tab Handler moves tabs - one or selected (click on a tab, press Ctrl and highlight the tabs you want to move) and it adds menu items.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:03 am 
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Please read again my message above (with the phrase "is a way of grouping"),
where I try to explain what a "Workspace" is. This feature lets me have
a lot more windows than I want to see on any one screen, so it may very
well be that my target Firefox window is NOT currently visible.

With "Multi Tab Handler" I can drag multiple tabs to another window
on the screen, or I can use the menu to move them to a new window.

But how can I move it (or them) to an existing window that is NOT visible
on the same screen as where the tabs currently live?

mmindenhall outlines what it takes to do it now, and how much easier
it would be if TMP had a "Move tab to other window..." function,
and if "Multi Tab Handler" could extend this function to multiple tabs.

Please let me know if you have any questions about this.

Thanks,
-LenW


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:07 pm 
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As I mentioned in my very first post, the feature I am looking for
is provided by another extension, "TabToWindow"
<http://www.sogame.cat/ttwindow/>. I recently checked and it is still
marked as "Integrated with or not compatible with Tab Mix Plus".

Is there some way to make these two extensions compatible so I can run
them both? If that is not possible, could you perhaps look at that
extension and integrate its function into TMP (though I would suggest
calling it "Move tab to other window..." ) ?

Since there are now two Linux users making the very same suggestion,
I hope you can believe us that there truly is an opportunity here
to make TMP even better. In fact I run into the problem we have
described several times a day. I have tried everything I can think of
to explain the situation in previous posts. Please tell me if I need to
clarify anything about this.

I really do appreciate the TMP extension and that it is a very
complex project.

Thanks,
-Len


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:28 pm 
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Tabmix already have options for
Move to new Window and Copy to new Window

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:12 pm 
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But I don't want a NEW window. I want to move the tab to an
EXISTING window. But I can't drag it directly there because it
is not visible at the same time as the window currently holding the tab.

PLEASE slow down a bit and read again this whole thread.
I would like to explain better what is going on here,
but I don't know how.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:46 pm 
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are you sure that TabToWindow have an option to move tab to existing window?

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:48 pm 
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Thank you very much for looking into this. You're right, that option is
not working in FF 12. I hadn't checked since last July when we last
discussed this. At that time, I was running FF 3.6.18 . I just restored
a copy of that version from my backups, installed "Tab to Window",
and it works just as I remember:

With more than one window for the same copy of Firefox,
each with at least one active tab:

- Right-click a tab and select "Join to Window >"
- This presents a menu listing the other windows for this copy of Firefox,
including windows in other Workspaces.
Each window is named as it is in its Title-bar.
- Select a window, and the current tab moves from the current window
to the selected one.

As mmindenhall described, this one operation replaces the three (at least)
that it currently takes to do this.

Thanks,
-Len


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:02 am 
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Hi onemen and makondo,

I assume that you're running Windows in your development environments? If so, it might help for you to recreate this so you can see for yourself in Windows (also, you might start to love having multiple workspaces!). This will take you no more than 5 minutes.

1. Download and install VirtuaWin (http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net) or Finestra (http://vdm.codeplex.com). I prefer Finestra, but YMMV.
2. Play around with switching workspaces (there should be 4 by default).
3. Open FF in one workspace. Create a 2nd FF window, and open some tabs in each window.
4. Move one of the two windows to a different workspace.
5. Verify that you can switch back and forth between the two workspaces, each of which contains a single FF window.
6. Now try to move a tab from one window to the other. You can't drag it, because the other window is not on the visible workspace. You have to use the multi-step procedure I described above.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:45 pm 
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Hi,

Just wondering if there are any further thoughts on this feature...gotta keep the dream alive!

Cheers,
Mark


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