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Mc
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Tabs on left or right side Reply with quote

I would like to have the tabs on the right or left side without using userchrome.css settings. Having these there I see much more tabs without scrolling and I see the tab title as I like to see.
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GaryR
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i add this, it still going to use the css hacks but' ill try it in the future
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Mc
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. So it will be easier to set things like lengths of tabs in that case and tabbar behaviour when it's over full.
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leighj
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:02 am    Post subject: This is the ONLY feature I find missing...! Reply with quote

I would REALLY like to see this.....
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nomaded
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too would love to see this feature.
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zivel
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: any progress? Reply with quote

CPU wrote:
if i add this, it still going to use the css hacks but' ill try it in the future


i'm voting STRONGLY for this feature too. or, at least improve compatibility with the css hack. becuse while using the hack and TMP i can see conflicts between those - sometimes when i close one tab the rest will get aligned into one line on the top - all of them are compressed onto the first tab. usually after closing another one they get back to the correct position. i think this is a conflict between TMP trying to enforce its "top" policy for tab location and the css hack. and also when opening new tabs i get strange flicker - it looks like another row of tabs is created for a short moment so the currently active rendered page is moved to the left side (assuming the tabs are on the right side) and then it moves back again. it doesn't affect functionality as bad as the first problem but it is a bit annoying. anyway, i have just praise for TMP - it's a great extension and if you can fix the problems with tabs on the side it would be just perfect Smile thank you.
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zivel
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: forgot... Reply with quote

just a suggestion - i have no idea how it is handled internally but maybe TMP could have another option for tab location - top, bottom and "css side hack" which would just leave the location up to the hack and the conflict i described would just disappear. as i said, i don't have much clue but maybe this would work as a temporary solution that would make the people on this thread happy.
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mixtape

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are alot of people trying to make Firefox look more like Safari on the Mac. The tabs in Safari looks like this.

The only way to make it look like that, right now, is with TBE. And that extension is the buggiest ever...
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zivel
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mixtape wrote:
There are alot of people trying to make Firefox look more like Safari on the Mac. The tabs in Safari looks like this.


i don't know about the others but i am trying to get this one thing because i used to have galeon on linux in such configuration YEARS before safari even existed. there are some other features galeon has that i'm missing but this one is the most important. for example in galeon you have context menu for bookmark folders - you can add bookmark to the selected folder. i guess there might be extension allowing this in firefox???

anyway, nothing against safari, i have never used it (or any mac even) so i cannot comment on it. but it's pretty irritating when people (apple fans) think everybody wants to copy mac.
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iamme99

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:34 pm    Post subject: Please do this! Reply with quote

I think it would be natural to include tab positioning in TM. I'll look forward to this hopefully sooner rather than later.

While you're working on this, maybe you could tie this one in also:

I usually have a large number of tabs open (right now about 50). They take up a lot of space. Many of them are reminders for me to look at when I have some time. Yes, I could store them somewhere in bookmarks but then I 'd probably never look at them.

I use the HideTabBar extension to temporarily gain more space but I'd like to see this functionality also included in TM (then I could get rid of one more extension). HideTabBar uses a hotkey to toggle visibility which is OK but I'd also like to see something like Sidebar does where you click on the small arrow thingy to open or close the display.
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Mc
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:07 am    Post subject: Scroll tabs Reply with quote

I'm glad you will add vertical tabbar to tmp.
I see a special behavior having it like that.
If there are too many tabs on the tabbar I can't scroll with mouse wheel. But I can always scroll having the focus on the undermost tab. So when I put the focus down by arrow key to the unvisible last tab, I can scroll with the mouse wheel as long as the focus is there.
And if I chose scroll by arrows they appear only when the focus is on undermost tab too.
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browser20

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any chance of getting vertical tabbar soon?
anyone got a workaround for FF 2.0b2?

I haven't got a working method now in FF 2.0b2.

Any previous methods now do not work:
Vertigo
different userChrome.css code including that on http://kb.mozillazine.org/Move_the_tab_bar_-_Firefox (which I've now marked as not working)

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Mc
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It still works for me in Fx 2.0b2 using:

#content > tabbox {
-moz-box-orient: horizontal;
}

.tabbrowser-strip {
-moz-box-orient: vertical;
/* note: you can set this to -moz-scrollbars-vertical instead,
but then the scrollbar will *always* be visible. this way
there is never a scrollbar, so it behaves like the tab bar
normally does */
overflow: -moz-scrollbars-none;
}

.tabbrowser-tabs {
-moz-box-orient: horizontal;
min-width: 17ex; /* you may want to increase this value */
-moz-box-align: start;
}
/*> stack > vbox > hbox*/
.tabbrowser-tabs > stack > vbox > hbox > hbox {
-moz-box-orient: vertical;
-moz-box-align: stretch;
}

.tabbrowser-tabs > stack > vbox > hbox > hbox > tab {
-moz-box-align: start;
-moz-box-orient: horizontal;
}
/* to put the tabs on the right un-comment this line
#content > tabbox {-moz-box-direction: reverse;} */
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eti3nne
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Vertical tabs Reply with quote

Vertical tabbing for me. Yes please. Thank you CPU, for continuing to keep development alive on this. No pressure Wink , but I'm hoping to have this in FF2 as I am on W98SE and so won't be able to use FF3!

Having tabs at the side makes best use of screen space and will become even more relevant as more people go widescreen.

Most 'extra features' seem to burn up vertical real estate, so being able to put the tabs to the side is a real (estate) saver!

PS. Mc, how do I use that code you published? Thanks.

TMP rocks, TMP plus Vertigo 'Rock and Roll's Cool
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Mc
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@eti3nne:
You use it in userChrome.css, see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Userchrome.css
It's a special code from onemen, different from code you will find here http://kb.mozillazine.org/Move_the_tabbar_%28Firefox%29
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Guest

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: another request for tabs on left (or right...) Reply with quote

For what it's worth, I'm using almost the same code in userchrome.css; I used the original (which is referenced from the page Mc mentioned) at http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=238798#238798)

The only change I made was the line:
min-width: 45ex; /* you may want to increase this value */
(I made the value 45)


I've got a widescreen notebook - it's dumb-stupid to have rows of tabs along the top with a way-too-wide-to-read page... I would have given up Firefox if I couldn't put the tabs on the side...
(yes, *seriously*)

- Al Weiner -
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh, just to clarify - "dumb-stupid" refers to my opinion for my *own* use - I can see others preferring that configuration (for example, someone with limited sight; using large fonts and so wants a wide page...)

- Al Weiner -
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eti3nne
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:18 am    Post subject: Out of body experience Reply with quote

Out of body experience

I have managed to successfully set up FF1506 to have vertical tabs and by keeping to a recommended max TMP version of 0.3.0.603.
Thanks to Mc and all.

I have experimented with tab left and right, with tabs to shrink mode set and I have noticed (this applied to Vertigo also) that it is often tricky (with tabs on right) to select the navigation bar without overstepping into the tab shrink area, causing the body to jump. I consider my hand-to-eye co-ordination to be reasonable: others less able would certainly find this a bugbear.

Idea (1) Might it be possible to have the vertical tabs showing as transparent and over-layered onto the body when say, the cursor exits the ‘body’ area, and hence not have to shift the ‘body’ across at all?

2) I know there is a setting for allowing space either side of the tabs; unfortunately the blank space area is detected as ‘out of body’ and the tab expand still kicks in.

If the expand only kicked in when say, 2 consecutive seconds had passed - unless cursor enters the actual tab area, in which case expand occurs. You would still need to include the extra blank as ‘body area’, but could also increase the (body side) blank area as a larger safe stray zone.


(3) Alternatively, instead of immediately detecting 'out of body' area, would it be possible to set the 'engage tab expansion’ to come into play only when the cursor is:
(a) for left tabs - say left of halfway into the minimum shrunken area (with maybe say, the icon becoming highlighted or something to confirm entry into the ‘activate tab size zone’)
and
(b) for right tabs - say right of halfway into the minimum shrunken area (with maybe say, the icon becoming highlighted or something to confirm entry into the ‘activate tab size zone’)?


This would reduce the tendency to have excessive screen jumping left and right as the cursor strays just outside the 'screen body' area.

FYI: I tend to have shrink set at 105, so I can still distinguish most tabs from one another and expand as 220, so almost all tabs are decipherable.
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Guest

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Mc"]It still works for me in Fx 2.0b2 using:
<snip>
/quote]

great. this does work. Thank you.
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LafinJack

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tab Mix is awesome, thank you! Firefox is so much snappier now, I've been using Tab Browser Extensions for so long that I didn't know that's what was holding me back. But like the others in this thread, the only thing I'm missing is vertical bars. I just installed the userChrome thing and while it works, it doesn't have the polish of the rest of the extension (obviously) and dragging tabs is pretty screwy.

So again, thanks for an awesome piece of software!
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